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Bachmann China QJ 2-10-2
Models Produced
| Release Date | Production Number | Production Run | Scale | Road #s | Beureau |
September 2001 |
CT00306 |
1st | HO (1:87) | 6266 | Shanghai |
" " |
CT00304 |
" " | " " | 7141 | Ji-Tong |
| " " | ? (Private Commissioned) |
" " | " " | #? "Young Pioneers" | ? |
| 2004 | CT00302 |
2nd | " " | 6800 "Iron Bull" | Harbin |
" " |
CT00303 |
" " | " " | 6732 "Youth" | Shenyang |
" " |
CS00103 |
" " | " " | 7207 | Datong |
2007 |
CS00104 |
3rd | " " | 7143 | Ji-Tong |
" " |
CS00105 |
" " | " " | 6978 | Ji-Tong |
2008 |
CS00106 |
4th | " " | 2470 "Zhu De" | Harbin |
Prototype Information
The QJ's were the largest type of standard steam locomotive in the People's Republic of China. They were typically used on heavy freight trains, often double heading, but were also very capable machines in passenger service, although their top speed of 80kph limited them to local work. The first prototypes were built in the 1950's, and at the end of the production in 1988, nearly 5,000 had been built. In the early 1980s, many of the original 8 wheel tenders were replaced with larger 12 wheel versions which gave the locomotives a much larger range.
Model Review
As there are so many variants of this model, I have included separate reviews for each model production run. The review summaries for each section will show changes between each production run.
1st series
General
The QJ's were Bachmann China's first steam locomotives, the first production run released in September 2001. A fault was present in approximately 100 of these models in relation to the alloy used in the chassis which would overheat and cause the whole engine to sieze up after a very short time. In 2009 a recall was issued and lasted approximately one month where owners were able to send their locomotive back for a complete replacement. I'm unaware if these replacement models featured the same original performance fault, as described below, or were the improved type from the fourth series.
Details
Apart from the lettering, they were both identical in details. The locomotive body is plastic with many of the finer details made from brass and seperately applied; namely smoke deflectors, steps, window visors, ladders, etc. Bachmann have truly made a beautiful looking locomotive.
Performance
The engines are quite heavy, but unfortunately much of the tractive effort is lost from the center driving wheel. This happens to be the geared wheel that makes contact with the worm, and as it's diamater is a fraction smaller than the others, it gives a pretty bad lurching effect, more noticeable in forward, that no amount of running in will cure. Since 2007, a replacement set of driving wheels has been available with the center driver having the correct diameter, but is unfortunately flanged (as featured on the 3rd series QJ release). They are nevertheless very responsive, have fantastic slow starting speeds and close to prototypical mainline speeds.
Electronics
Electrical pick-up comes from the driving wheels and the tender wheels, which is ferried to the circuit board housed in the tender via wires and then back to the engine to the motor and headlights. Headlights are directional and are 12 volt bulbs. These give off a very nice color, but being bulbs tend to heat up very quickly, something to keep an eye on. Swapping these out for LED's (3mm sunny bright recommended) is a very painful task. For those of you who've attempted disassembling one of these, you will know what I'm talking about.
There is plenty of room inside the tender to accept most HO scale sized decoders. As per standard Bachmann practice, they have an 8 pin socket to accept any NMRA 8 pin decoder. The tender shell is easily removed by putting a few toothpicks between the chassis and the frame, and again on the other side.
Coupler Conversion
As with all of Bachmann's steam locomotives, couplers on the back require a NEM European fit (clip). I recommend Kadee # 17's for these locomotives. The clips don't quite clip in place, but with a sharp hobby blade, a tiny sliver from the front of the coupler box will see they click in nicely (be careful when doing this and take of only a very small amount and more again if needed). I use a #153 (scale sized short-shank w/whisker) for the front coupler.
| The Good News |
The Bad News |
Bachmann China's first steam locomotive |
Jerky performance, poor traction on grades |
Responsive and quiet |
12v bulbs are a bit of a worry |
Optional coal load |
|
Beautifully detailed |
Model image below show some custom changes to stock model; |
- Pilot wheel custom painted |
- Bachmann EZ-Mate couplers have been replaced with Kadees |
- Whistle & valves painted black on #7207 and 6732 |
2nd series
Details
There were three new road numbers with the second series of QJ's which included a fully decorated version #6800 Iron Bull, a slightly decorated version # 6732 and a standard version #7207 which was the very last QJ built. The two decorated locomotives included small detail parts to be installed. In the case of #6800 "Iron Bull", once the smoke box plaque was installed, it wasn't possible to return it to the box with modifying it first. The tender plaque on #6732 is installed in the wrong place and is also smaller than the prototype. It should be positioned above the center wheel of the front bogie. I replaced mine with a spare set from DF4B Diesel which are larger but otherwise identical.
Performance
These locomotives performed exactly the same as the first series with no improvements to the running qualities attempted. When running in reverse, the tender had a tendancy to snag on the rubber corridor de-railing it or the locomotive. A quick remedy is to cut about 1mm off the corridor (use the fold in the rubber as a guide). This didn't apply to the first series and I believe this is due to the fact that the drawbar system was replaced for a more stable 4-pin design to keep the tender connected to the locomotive. The previous 2-pin type on the first series had prevented the tender from getting too close to the engine.
| The Good News |
The Bad News |
Three new road numbers to enjoy! |
No improvement to drive system |
Excellent electrical pick-up |
Reverse running can lead to derailments |
Model image below show some custom changes to stock model; |
- Pilot wheel custom painted |
- Bachmann EZ-Mate couplers have been replaced with Kadees |
- Tender plaque on #6732 was replaced with larger one from DF4B diesel #1033 |
- Whistle & valves painted black on #7207 and 6732 |
3rd series
Details
The 3rd series was released in 2007 and were both models of Ji-Tong based engines, perhaps to celebrate the end of steam on the Ji-Tong line, the last major concentration of the QJ's. Two of the most famous locomotives along the line were modelled. #7143 was held in high esteem by her crews and was given a special blue headboard in her final years, which Bachmann has decided to replicate with their model. #6978 was usually used on passenger service and has a large red smoke box plaque with gold characters which has been poorly executed in my eyes - the paint looks very thick and toyish and could have been much better achieved by using the same techinque on the earlier #6800 Iron Bull.
Performance
Finally Bachmann decided to something about the drive system on their QJ's and made the
center driving wheel diameter the same as the others. This has greatly improved the tractive effort and eliminated the jerky performance of the prior releases. Unfortunately however, they have added a flange onto this wheel! So close, and yet so far. This shouldn't effect the running of the engine, even on fairly sharp curves and is more of an aesthetic and common sense complaint.
Electronics
LED's replaced the 12v bulbs from the first & second series. Unfortunately the color is a little too orange.
| The Good News |
The Bad News |
Improved drive system |
Center driving wheel is flanged |
Very nicely detailed, with unique features for each |
Smokebox plaque on #6978 is poorly reproduced |
Model image below show some custom changes to stock model; |
- Bachmann EZ-Mate couplers have been replaced with Kadee #158 scale whisker coupler (rear coupler removed, should be Kadee NEM #17) |
4th series
Details
The forth and most recent addition to the QJ series was a single version and very famous Harbin based locomotive, named after Chinese general Zhu De. This was Bachmann's first (and hopefully not last) 8 wheel tender version. It was sold with the early brass decorations and name plates attached which could be replaced with an optional later period plates including a red & gold smoke box plaque. A ladder was also included to be attached to one side of the tender. It was the first QJ to be sold in Bachmann's new slimline boxes.
Performance
The engine ran every bit as good as the previous series, but this time they've finally got the center driving wheel figured out with the correct size and flangeless.
Performance
The tender has been designed to house a sound decoder with speaker holes cast into the bottom. It happily accepts the DXDC 5302 (QJ) sound decoder and should be able to fit many others.
| The Good News |
The Bad News |
The first QJ with 8 wheel tender! |
LED color still awful |
Best drive system yet, correct sized/flangeless center driver |
Coal load is permanently fixed to tender |
Optional set of details for early or late appearance |
Model image below show some custom changes to stock model; |
- Custom coal load added to tender |
- Bachmann EZ-mate couplers replaced with Kadee's (#153 on the front, #17 on the rear) |
Other Notes
A must have for any 1970's to present day era Chinese layout. Most versions tend to sell out very quickly.
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